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Post by mur on Jan 12, 2012 10:56:37 GMT -7
@cy
I should have known...the oathkeepers apparently value lies when it suits their agenda.
No wonder you embrace liars.
You'll do or say anything.
That's no different then the people in charge.
Shameful
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Post by Greatwaller on Jan 12, 2012 10:58:35 GMT -7
There is the disclosure and there is also the possibility of misinformation. Possibility of misinformation? Bank on it. Jake admitted the stories were all bogus. The only value in that is for the liars. I don't want to be their lab rat. But Cy thinks their is a value in being the "good rat" Very naive Hi Mur; I hope you're serious and don't simply make sweeping statement about the fact that such information are for liars. I would accept the information offered at face value until such time I could find alternative explanation for it. Most of the time by maintaining sketicism, one may tend to overlook some gems embedded in the information which is offered. I would not be influenced by what others say as I only would have to make up my mind whether to consider the given piece of information is really truthful or not. I am my own judge first and last, Mur and so would you, pal. GW
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Post by mur on Jan 12, 2012 11:09:51 GMT -7
I've grown tired of looking through crap for the pearls.
There aren't any coming from Jake's friends....
They are jerking you guys off.
Pandolfi, Putoff, Green, Doty, Novel, and many others.
They may not be car salesmen, but they have shown themselves to be just as valuable.
They are in this for themselves.
Look at their backgrounds.
They are data mining for their mind control projects.
OMF was a data collector.
The data is everything
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 12, 2012 11:12:08 GMT -7
@cy I should have known...the oathkeepers apparently value lies when it suits their agenda. No wonder you embrace liars. You'll do or say anything. That's no different then the people in charge. Shameful OathKeepers has nothing to do with this Mur, you're evading what I've said. It was not meant to offend you...You wish to know what others percieve....you wish to be part of the "scoop" if it exists....you wish to be included or you would not be here. Obviously it bothers you that others think they understand something that you see differently...yet you won't allow for those differences. It is something to respond negatively to. It is something to call a "shame" as you say in your view. There is no way other than Mur's way. And this is why you feel continually offended by things not congruent to your Culture....and this is why you're standard practice is verbal combat as a response and when that doesn't succeed then responses that elicit physical results such as direct contact with members or activities portrayed as 'harmless fun' that directly shuts down a broad swath through everyone's lives, i.e. the long-term result of OMF being suspension after a protracted period of chaos stemming from the lack of Cultural fulfillment. Cy
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 12, 2012 11:14:02 GMT -7
I've grown tired of looking through crap for the pearls. There aren't any coming from Jake's friends.... They are jerking you guys off. Pandolfi, Putoff, Green, Doty, Novel, and many others. They may not be car salesmen, but they have shown themselves to be just as valuable. They are in this for themselves. Look at their backgrounds. They are data mining for their mind control projects. OMF was a data collector. The data is everything It doesn't fill a place in your life then...therefore you are not required to participate...so why do you stay and make those who do miserable?
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 12, 2012 11:28:36 GMT -7
I've grown tired of looking through crap for the pearls. There aren't any coming from Jake's friends.... They are jerking you guys off. Pandolfi, Putoff, Green, Doty, Novel, and many others. They may not be car salesmen, but they have shown themselves to be just as valuable. They are in this for themselves. Look at their backgrounds. They are data mining for their mind control projects. OMF was a data collector. The data is everything It doesn't fill a place in your life then...therefore you are not required to participate...so why do you stay and make those who do miserable? No response Mur? This my friend is what it is like to be on the receiving end of verbal combat. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't cause you to respond in a positive way.... AND it most certainly DOES NOT cause any party involved to practice INTROSPECTION or REASON, or HONESTY. Cy
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 12, 2012 11:29:27 GMT -7
It doesn't fill a place in your life then...therefore you are not required to participate...so why do you stay and make those who do miserable? No response Mur? This my friend is what it is like to be on the receiving end of verbal combat. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't cause you to respond in a positive way.... AND it most certainly DOES NOT cause any party involved to practice INTROSPECTION or REASON, or HONESTY. Cy End EXAMPLE. Cy
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Post by mur on Jan 12, 2012 11:35:28 GMT -7
@cy I should have known...the oathkeepers apparently value lies when it suits their agenda. No wonder you embrace liars. You'll do or say anything. That's no different then the people in charge. Shameful OathKeepers has nothing to do with this Mur, you're evading what I've said. It was not meant to offend you...You wish to know what others percieve....you wish to be part of the "scoop" if it exists....you wish to be included or you would not be here. Obviously it bothers you that others think they understand something that you see differently...yet you won't allow for those differences. It is something to respond negatively to. It is something to call a "shame" as you say in your view. There is no way other than Mur's way. Cy Funny how the shoe is on the other foot when it comes to the oathkeepers...eh? If it is ok to lie to the ufo community....why is it not okay to lie to the oathkeepers? Or lie about them? Lies are a good thing...that's what you have been saying.
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Post by mur on Jan 12, 2012 11:36:23 GMT -7
I've grown tired of looking through crap for the pearls. There aren't any coming from Jake's friends.... They are jerking you guys off. Pandolfi, Putoff, Green, Doty, Novel, and many others. They may not be car salesmen, but they have shown themselves to be just as valuable. They are in this for themselves. Look at their backgrounds. They are data mining for their mind control projects. OMF was a data collector. The data is everything It doesn't fill a place in your life then...therefore you are not required to participate...so why do you stay and make those who do miserable? Maybe to wake one or two of you up
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Post by mur on Jan 12, 2012 11:37:39 GMT -7
No response Mur? This my friend is what it is like to be on the receiving end of verbal combat. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't cause you to respond in a positive way.... AND it most certainly DOES NOT cause any party involved to practice INTROSPECTION or REASON, or HONESTY. Cy I was in the shower...totally naked
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Post by mur on Jan 12, 2012 11:38:13 GMT -7
No response Mur? This my friend is what it is like to be on the receiving end of verbal combat. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't cause you to respond in a positive way.... AND it most certainly DOES NOT cause any party involved to practice INTROSPECTION or REASON, or HONESTY. Cy End EXAMPLE. Cy You wish
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 12, 2012 11:47:28 GMT -7
OathKeepers has nothing to do with this Mur, you're evading what I've said. It was not meant to offend you...You wish to know what others percieve....you wish to be part of the "scoop" if it exists....you wish to be included or you would not be here. Obviously it bothers you that others think they understand something that you see differently...yet you won't allow for those differences. It is something to respond negatively to. It is something to call a "shame" as you say in your view. There is no way other than Mur's way. Cy Funny how the shoe is on the other foot when it comes to the oathkeepers...eh? If it is ok to lie to the ufo community....why is it not okay to lie to the oathkeepers? Or lie about them? Lies are a good thing...that's what you have been saying. Again you are injecting a distraction; a evasion here. The evasion is OathKeepers. Again I reply, OathKeepers organization is not involved in this matter. Why do insist on attempting to draw them into it rather than respond to the recognition of your actions and your needs which I described? Cy
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 12, 2012 11:49:27 GMT -7
It doesn't fill a place in your life then...therefore you are not required to participate...so why do you stay and make those who do miserable? Maybe to wake one or two of you up This statement you make is technically interference with FREE WILL and personal development of other individuals. It says to people like myself that you do not value other people's experiences enough to allow them to have those experiences and learn from them of their own accord. Cy Edit to add: if you speak in such a way that says to others that you do not value their personal experiences or their individual paths to personal or collective development then you are saying to them that you do not value their lives. If you do not value the lives of individuals then you cannot value the life of the collective. This is antethematic to the Princiiples involved in founding the nation of America. It is a paradox to what you claim to be foundational to your being. This is why everything you do comes across as combat upon others, whether intended or not.
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Post by toon on Jan 12, 2012 11:49:30 GMT -7
I've grown tired of looking through crap for the pearls. There aren't any coming from Jake's friends.... They are jerking you guys off. Pandolfi, Putoff, Green, Doty, Novel, and many others. They may not be car salesmen, but they have shown themselves to be just as valuable. They are in this for themselves. Look at their backgrounds. They are data mining for their mind control projects. OMF was a data collector. The data is everything Welcome aboard! I luvs me some Andy Murray!
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Post by toon on Jan 12, 2012 11:56:05 GMT -7
Am I to assume by all the foregoing that the Cy Von Schicklegruber wants to engage me in a philosophical debate? She and the Foreskin? I'd only advise them both to practice long and hard in the shallow end of the icky feelings pool. There is danger in depth. Just sayin..
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