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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 9, 2012 10:26:04 GMT -7
For anyone who's just come in, Agent 99 and I are rapid firing via pm...jump in and join the fray as you like at anypoint. Cy
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 9, 2012 16:14:22 GMT -7
Thanks for the message relay over at Amkon Archistrategos. But really it wasn't necessary for you to go to so much trouble.
Sitting back here relaxing while you Intel and un-Intel pros play your games. Just enjoying the view and the free education I get at your expense; you doling out your play books. Sun Tsu was missing out, living so long ago...he could have waited and written five more such books.
I have to thank you for your mile long posts and pms "Archie" because while you dallied with me, I had more than enough time to get everything I needed to do done.
This is the value of being underestimated.
Salute.
Cy
Oh and FYI I see just fine....
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A note from Stewart Rhodes, Founder of Oath Keepers:
"Below is something my Uncle Rex (my Mom's brother) recently wrote for me, when he knew I was feeling down and losing hope. I think you will like it."
In the Shadow of our Fathers
The liberty we possess as Americans is not government granted but God given. It is what our Fathers call "Our natural birthright." Therefore, it is not ours to give away nor to relinquish; for in essence, it is given to us as caretakers for the up and coming generations of Americans yet unborn.
It is as if we are running a marathon with the baton of American liberty clutched in our hands. Our goal and our purpose is to carry it safely and pass it on to the next generation of American runners so they in turn may pass it on to the next and so forth.
But - if because we cannot see the finish line and the odds against us seem insurmountable; if we become overwhelmed and lose our will to continue the race and succumb to the temptation to sit it out; if we lose the hope in the contest and give up the race, then all is lost and American liberty is no more. The fate of future Americans is weighed in the balance and we as a free people are in charge of the outcome for no man or group of men holds in their hands the final answer to the issue but ourselves. It is up to us to run the good race and fight the good fight; we as individuals as well as we as a team, for no one person carries the American baton of liberty by themselves, we are all in this together till the end...and be assured there is no end, at least not until Providence dictates it to be so.
When in the darkest hours of the year 1772, when disunion against British tyranny seemed eminent, Warren of Plymouth was desponding and said:
"The towns are dead and cannot be raised without a miracle."
Samuel Adams responded: "I am very sorry to find in you the least approach towards despair. Nil desperandum (never despair) is a model for you and me. All are not dead; and where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it." (Bancroft"History of the United States" Vol. III pg. 426)
And indeed they did!
In late December of 1772, during that same low ebb, the Boston Committee of Correspondence wrote:
" By the people's thorough understanding of their civil and religious rights and liberties, encouraged to trust in God that a day was hastening when the efforts of the colonists would be crowned with success, and the present generation furnish an example of public virtue worthy of imitation of all posterity." (IBID pg. 428)
Today is that day!
Therefore, let us be a worthy example for our posterity by walking worthily of the freedom whereby we have been made free and by never returning back to the beggarly elements of slavery; for we are not children of the bond woman of old Europe but we are free born under these western skies, and free we must remain, for you are children of noble parental blood - they never quit, neither must you.
The world watches what you do here today with the greatest of anxiety for if we fail, the light of mankind's hope for liberty and freedom will be extinguished and the world will be thrown into an age darker, sinister and more slavish than mankind has ever experienced.
Finally brethren, be not counted as the generation who lost all after it has been given all by those who gave all, for if you do, your posterity shall rise up in their slavish toil and curse you.
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R. Ruth, Founder, The Educational Institute for Governmental Studies
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Post by a99 on Jan 9, 2012 17:05:37 GMT -7
mdonnall ... check your PMs.  |
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Post by a99 on Jan 9, 2012 17:09:52 GMT -7
That was quite an interesting message.
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 9, 2012 22:58:20 GMT -7
That was quite an interesting message. And here's my other part of it for our curious friend Archie.... Claoimh SolaisA finne tucadh claidhim NuadadFrom the homeland, the People brought the Sword of Renewal ni thernadh nech uadhaIts singular spirit cannot be escaped O dobetha as a intig bodhaOh wretched life (how) you increase when (the Sword) is drawn from its sheath (revealed) ni gebtha frisIs it not deserved? ~ It is of the People and BY the Creative Forces of the People. Its brightness is a signal of illumination of the People, either as Source or that reflective Element. ~ It is a Power; an Immutable Force that cannot be overcome. ~ It is not just a weapon but a tool of application; illumination, skill, creativity, speech, & honor. This is a sacred symbol. What then is the central theme of this Sacred Symbol? What one thing could possibly contain the various qualities of wisdom, illumination, skill, creativity, speech and honor? It is a simple answer really. It is nothing less and nothing more than TRUTH! What illuminates more brightly than TRUTH? What engenders wisdom more than TRUTH? What slays false speech more quickly and more thoroughly than TRUTH? What makes life more wretched for those who would avoid TRUTH? What is more honorable than TRUTH? Archistrategoes said:What is Truth without the qualities of wisdom...and who's Truth would you have prevail? Many speak of process, but none define it with clarity or integrity. They would strip FREE WILL from the equation, refusing to treat the choices of mankind with respect; refusing to recognize and allow for the manifestation of Potential. The original root word of claidhim is glaid, one meaning of which is uproar. Cyrellys |
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Post by Guest on Jan 9, 2012 23:28:01 GMT -7
So just to be clear, calling out "Archie" by name and apparently looking to start some sort of fight with him isn't the sort of headhunting you are against just a page back?
I'm confused.
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Post by Fore on Jan 10, 2012 0:05:31 GMT -7
Mdonall wrote: If you want to know why the Admins keep silent over what transpired it is probably because they are (imo) protecting what remains of Brens integrity and pride and want to leave things be as they are. They know what happened, and it really is kinda embarrasing. (There are far more legitimate reasons, but too sensitive or private to talk about it...so I am not going there.) There is a back story, and a REASON for everything that happened, but most everyone including me (largely, but not completely) has agreed not to tell the story of what happened. Here is part of the story: Doc wrote: Doc wrote: Why did they worry about finding themselves locked out? Because of these sorts of events were the issues I asked them to tackle:  i39.tinypic.com/jhrcic.jpg i44.tinypic.com/168vsx3.jpg i42.tinypic.com/4ktxl.jpgAll of these posts were quickly deleted or properly moderated by the other Admins when I brought it to their attention. At one point Admin (Bren) defiantly reposted them even though they were against the rules and everyone on the staff knew it was. He (IMO) thumbed his nose at the others defiantly "as if" he were "a king" above the rules. You cannot moderate a person whom refuses to be moderated (as far as I know). The system somewhat broke apart. "Trust" broke. And ironically, one mans freedom overulled all reason. It was his way or the highway. Most everyone chose the highway. (Note I am cutting out huge portions behind this and many other motives that exists other than what I have presented. I do not know the full story, so there are many angles to this that will probably never be heard of.) Ultimately the one whom drove away the staff was none other than Admin himself through his behavior. You can share that with A99 and Cy if you aren't going to already. I am sure they will want to know all about it.... No doubt Bren will probably bamboozle them and the others into believing he is of a pure heart....:rolls eyes: |
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 10, 2012 0:09:12 GMT -7
So just to be clear, calling out "Archie" by name and apparently looking to start some sort of fight with him isn't the sort of headhunting you are against just a page back? I'm confused. No, but I can see how you might think that. Archistratego did not have any personal contact information for me, which is why he went to Amkon. He and I were having an ongoing conversation which the suspension interupted. By posting this here, I got Mur to successfully pick up the post and deposit it there....thus leaving a return calling card. See Mur's post: amkon.net/showthread.php/21760-Notice!-You-are-hereby-terminated-by-the-Borg?p=762306&viewfull=1#post762306 Oh and Mur, I saved a screen shot so erasing it won't help if you happen to be inclined to backpeddle. lol, I know old habits tend to die hard. Archistratego is quick to respond to anything that seems off-color so I'm more likely to hear sooner from him when I poke with a sharp stick. Welcome to the wonderful workings of the world. Cy |
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 10, 2012 0:25:32 GMT -7
Hello Fore. It is interesting to hear your side of the story. Thank you.
Cy
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Post by Fore on Jan 10, 2012 0:30:12 GMT -7
Your welcome.
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 10, 2012 0:35:21 GMT -7
Ok so a question in honesty...who was/were the hot-head(s) who used the ProBoards Hosting Company as a weapon to nuke the Open Minds Forum by reporting posts etc?
Edit to add:
Actually, what I should mention here is that I'm not specifically angry with Fore or anyone...I'm accustomed to bellowing over vast quantities of noise looking for information...What I want to know is if this matter is confined to a social mishap between a few admins & mods or if there is a bigger truth here. Because it's anything beyond that which is my primary interest.
So what I'm looking for is number of reports and by whom. Then I'm curious to know if Proboards would agree with that. Personally folks I don't give a rats posterior about your little tiff. It is the forum itself and the history, information, and members which concern me...if the Contact Paradigm is to evolve in a positive way with communities of the Aware then all the players need to be sitting at the table or at least recognized with the traditional bestowing of the hand, "Duck, Duck, Goose!".
The exopolitics & ufology community have gained a distinct reputation for being too toxic to be included among the adults in the other room, hense they are subject to being used as playthings...so here's how we start sorting out what's going on and cleaning the house up. Anyone game?
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Post by Fore on Jan 10, 2012 1:12:35 GMT -7
Ok so a question in honesty...who was/were the hot-head(s) who used the ProBoards Hosting Company as a weapon to nuke the Open Minds Forum by reporting posts etc? I know my last report (of about 3 or so total in the last month) was around the begining of the month. I think it was just before or after new years. Most of it was about A99 claims and her posts on how I was supposedly sending entities to her to torment her or something. (??) The first one was...I need some time to jog my memory on what it was. It was soon after I was banned from the forum for the last time. ---------------------- As for what nuked the forum, as far as I know, it was Ed Fouche. He made 9 claims in what I assume was a very short span of time from what I saw when reading the OM forum. He and Zorgon are always fighting about something. He got mad (from what I saw on the OM forum) about what "HE THOUGHT" was calikid deleting his threads or moving them.  i40.tinypic.com/ek2fif.png i42.tinypic.com/24xg8yh.png i40.tinypic.com/2f0f213.png i40.tinypic.com/5ui9oj.png i42.tinypic.com/ftlab6.png i41.tinypic.com/jj8sd1.pngi41.tinypic.com/2uhlkdu.pngi41.tinypic.com/2uhlkdu.png i43.tinypic.com/2vb06l4.png i39.tinypic.com/21as7o.pngThe day before OM died, he said that he was making yet another claim and he didn't care if the forum died. So, if you want to point the finger, there you go... [Edit: It seems the post that he made a day ago has been deleted. Either that or I cannot find it easily in the last 30 posts he has made. In that post he mentioned he was reporting OMF again and didn't care if it was taken down because of it.] (Should have taken a screen cap of it!) |
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Post by Cyrellys on Jan 10, 2012 1:36:02 GMT -7
Ok Fore, thank you again for this. A number of these posts I never even seen. My time was limited due to other matters. I did leave a post to Ed inquiring as to what and where...he eventually replied and so did Zorgon in an attempt to communicate, but there was no links to follow to the location and much of my very little time was spent trying to figure out not only what was missing but where precisely it had originated.
I note the timing in some of the examples you've posted here...at the beginning there is only a 25 minute time span between when Ed posted about the problem and then went ballistic about it. That short span is loaded with assumption that any problem can be so rapidly addressed.
I also see the attempt to interfere with my efforts to curb Dove's verbal attacks on another member. That is one I hadn't seen either.
Interesting.
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Post by a99 on Jan 10, 2012 5:33:28 GMT -7
What a beautiful day it is! It's so bright and sunny out there, plan on taking a hike in the woods later on today!
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Post by mdonnall2002 on Jan 10, 2012 6:51:13 GMT -7
Archistrategos
If I may be so be inclined to enlist you here......
RE: Your Insights
"Do you kiss your mother with that tongue? Some of us are just lost children in the wilderness, but we are not deaf at all. Some of us didn't bring a torch, but there is one who has lit it for us and holding it in front of us as we walk forward. We can only see the immediate step in front of us though. After that step, we see the next. We do trust the steps though without knowing the next. Any time you feel like getting off the cross and lighting some of that wood for us, please feel free. Sure would make a heck of a lot of torches."
"Those are the ones you should be focusing on, not the ones you can not help. Your statement sounds like you have already given up on the rest because you are doing what they are doing, which is focusing on problem, and not solution. Many of us are waking up at alarming speeds right now. It would help if you lit a few more torches though so we know where you are. However, don't make the same mistakes they have. Your statement almost sounds like pride to me, that you have seen the light and basking in it. "
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I was unaware of my position on the cross, hoarding all the wood. Perhaps I have seen it all wrong? You may have a valid point. Communication is the bridge whereas condescension is its corrosion. It would help to know if you are talking AT me or WITH me... I am more than willing to alter my perspective, as it is not set, it is fluid and malleable, if you could provide some suggestions as to where I should take these Spears of Destiny to set them ablaze for illumination.
If you have seen pride in me then you have mistaken it for frustration, much like yours. Direct your anger to something useful by adding to the equation instead of removing the formulas required to solve it. Strangely enough, it could be you, once you have reflected back within yourself and realize that this is not just about you..
I don't know you - but I sense what is within you..and it hurts... My advice, embrace it. Valuable introspection awaits you there. So does the realization that your Father is also mine....Unless you prefer those burdens to metastasize within you?
I am here...
are you?
Modified: Clarity
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