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Post by brenatom on Apr 1, 2012 13:56:04 GMT -7
Bren, I never had any communication with anyone at ProBoards. The only content that I deleted was clearly spurious and libelous. So do I. So do you. |
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Post by dan on Apr 1, 2012 16:07:52 GMT -7
Bren seems to be working overtime to be an agent provocateur.
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Post by brenatom on Apr 1, 2012 19:19:54 GMT -7
Out of the mouths immature Xxxxsticks.
Funny how vindication came from the very subject audience of immature xxxxsticks - could not think of a more poetic justice.
Dan, you are kidding no one but yourself, not even those above kids Andrew Murray hangs around with.
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Post by Jake Reason on Apr 1, 2012 21:32:45 GMT -7
This is not my dog to hunt (recent Andy ordeal), and I have accordingly exercised restraint to comment, both on-line and in emails. However, this is spinning out of control of any semblance of reality. And so my two cents....
Since I have worked with Bren closely for many years, and am a Canadian and therefore closer to understanding British colloquialisms in speech, I assuredly understand Bren's comments in the context and intended meaning in which they were posted.
In a nutshell, Andy's imagination grossly misinterpreted Bren's comments, which Dan edited out of Bren's post. Bren's comments implied NO sexual innuendo what-so-ever, which Andy had childishly imagined.
Bren's allegorical comments of Andy attempting to garner support of "boys", meant nothing more than a representation of how grown men can (at times) act like adolescent boys. And such "boys" often congregate among themselves to form cliques. Which is a common social observance. And by Andy thinking Bren was inferring such condensation as being intended to mean something sexual, only confirms Bren's intended meaning that even grown men will be "boys", and boys will act as boys.
There was nothing sexually libelous about Bren's comments concerning Andy, that such should be erroneously hiped up to warrant any obligation to delete Bren's posted comments.
It was nothing but a "touché" to the 100's, if not 1000's of obsessive posts that Andy has published on-line over the last 4 years, ridiculing and dishing Bren as being some form of lessor human being. Andy is being a "boy", and has been continually seeking praise from other "boys" by his continuous unrelenting ridicule and outrageous slander of virtually everyone who isn't a part of his clique of "boys".
Cyrellys should not have had to deal with this issue.
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Post by dan on Apr 2, 2012 8:50:04 GMT -7
Jake,
Wonderful. Now the Brits have found a new way to provoke the Yanks. If Bren wishes to make snide personal remarks, I would prefer that he do it elsewhere, and not be using the rest of us as his hostages, in an uncivil war that will never end.
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Since the managers of ProBoards are also not of the British persuasion, they, too, might find such remarks actionable, particularly based on their past experience in this particular conflict.
How much time should any of us invest in a project that can be hijacked by those with personal scores to settle?
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Post by Jake Reason on Apr 2, 2012 21:51:11 GMT -7
Well now Dan,
Bren wasn't being as cryptic in his post as you are giving latitude to. It is a well understood British temperament, that they place high regard on mature adult conduct & honorable expectation. This has hardly been a exercise in a new fangled way of "Brit's provoking Yankees".
I'll stop there.
Anyhow... Dan, I do understand your concern. No doubt your "risk management" concerns have some measure of validity, for exercising prudence.
IOW, considering Andy's temperament and maturity, it may be best to appease the firecracker, just in case he thinks that suicide bombing might get him a pat-on-the-back from other Library burners.
And so yes I concur... Let us not "invest in a project that can be hijacked by those with personal scores to settle."
Especially respecting Cyrellys' hospitality.
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Post by Jake Reason on Apr 2, 2012 23:29:15 GMT -7
And always remember...
That Bren Burton could have, on any day, at any time, signed on to OMF and clicked a button that would delete the forum forever. Not only from viewing on the net, but also from the proboards server. This is a privilege and obligatory TAC of proboards, that the original Admin held sole right to "DELETE" the forum in its entirety.
Bren never exercised this power. Never, in over seven years. Since 2004, Bren held the sole right to the red button to the oblivion of the forum. On any day over those 2,500+ days, Bren could have shut it down and had it entirely deleted from "proboards" servers.... with his single click on his mouse.
BUT he did not!
Think about that.
How many others, who have held some position of authority entirely granted to them by Bren Burton, could have exercised the same respect, fortitude, and honour of character that Bren employed over those years?
The forum was shut down by way of collusion and complaints of people that included those who Bren invested his trust to.
Yet Bren held true to higher time honoured principles. Embellished and bestowed with full absolute power, to delete the forum at any time upon his whim. But he did not.
Consider these things. And try, if you can, to empathize the depth of Bren's exasperation & sorrow.
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Post by dan on Apr 3, 2012 5:14:11 GMT -7
Those are good points, Jake..... well taken.......
Let us hope that we can all live to see a new day.
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Post by mdonnall2002 on Apr 3, 2012 5:47:42 GMT -7
Those are good points, Jake..... well taken....... Let us hope that we can all live to see a new day. We can only hope - that the book burning will subside at a time when it is most needed. Passions inflamed consume just as equally only lesser seen as the proverbial candle is currently burning from both ends! |
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Post by pman35 on Apr 3, 2012 16:41:48 GMT -7
May I add my comments to this , why is it that when people have things to say they get bullied and flamed over it , why can't they be allowed to speak freely without condensation.
There should not a slanging match of he said that he said this . imo I think omf was shut down was because it contained many truths that if continued to be left alone would eventually lead to more people learning the truth about whats really going on , those people shut it down to prevent the truth they want to create their own versions of it which will never never happen.
As Jake put it perfectly Bren could have pulled the plug at any time on omf but didn't the main reason is because Bren has a heart and cares bout what is happening to this planet , most of the people living on it are blind to the fact of whats really going on around them but I sense its because of the shut down of omf that they are starting to realise that there is more going on around them , the people involved in not only the closure but other events going on in the world are aware that they have limited time left before they lose control , already the cracks are showing and will keep showing.
Some people parade around pretending to be someone they are not and its from this the lies eventually catch up to them , to people like that i say to them , no more lies for it will be ur ruination and not those of whom u are trying to ruin.
Cyrellys has been nothing but a gracious and well respected person and has gone out of her way to create a forum to contain truths of different topics , the passion she endlessly has is nothing short or amazement , just like Bren Cy has the love of truth and the passion to help give humankind its emotional freedom., I for one do not want to read half truths, live a fake existance and become a non emotional.
I want to be able to share in the humanity of this planets people , emotions , when triggered are nothing short of what makes us unique in this section of the galaxy.
It is becaue of what tptb are doing that we are losing are humaness , ie ability to show love , repect , kindness , the power of speech and being turned slowly into savage's with only a need for war hatred , greed , power, why has this come about.
The simple answer to that is containment , an example of this would be "put a present in front of a child watch what happens to them when they see it , they become involved in it and blank everything else out , exactly the same thing is happenig to millions of people around the globe they are being treated to what they believe are presents , treats , entertainment etc but in actual fact they are allowing themselves to be contained , and thats another reason why omf was shut down to stop the infestation of the truth, the proper truth and nothing but the truth.
if I may borrow a quote from a few good men "You want the truth , you can't handle the truth" in actual fact we can handle the truth and want it now. No more compartmentalising.
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Post by Cyrellys on Apr 4, 2012 13:13:30 GMT -7
Jake, Wonderful. Now the Brits have found a new way to provoke the Yanks. If Bren wishes to make snide personal remarks, I would prefer that he do it elsewhere, and not be using the rest of us as his hostages, in an uncivil war that will never end. ------------- Since the managers of ProBoards are also not of the British persuasion, they, too, might find such remarks actionable, particularly based on their past experience in this particular conflict. How much time should any of us invest in a project that can be hijacked by those with personal scores to settle? . Well it seems what ProBoards found "actionable" were my declarations to defend CM against unwarranted "reporting attacks" where ProBoards has failed to defend its own hosted forums. ProBoards wasn't objecting to the posts by Jake or Bren, which were the original objects of the "reporting attacks"....weird, but that's fine, whatever. Easy fix to delete my own statements. Anyway, I have removed the two posts that they objected to, and we'll see how things go. Cy |
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Post by Cyrellys on Apr 4, 2012 13:25:30 GMT -7
Hey Pman,
A fantastic comment! Salute!
Cy
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Post by dan on Apr 4, 2012 13:39:26 GMT -7
Cy,
Yes, that is an ironic turnabout, and, as you say, let us try not to dwell upon the past..... a tale full of sound and fury. We learn and move on......
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Post by Jake Reason on Apr 4, 2012 15:58:54 GMT -7
hmmm, well that is surprising. And interesting. The internet is morphing, freedoms are contracting, making it increasingly complex for service providers. Further it appears that hostilities are rising throughout the net. I noticed that Proboards suffered another major attack in the past week which shut down a significant number of forums. I can empathize that Proboards management are being heavily burdened with risk management assessment.
Glad to see compassmorainn restored.
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Post by Cyrellys on Apr 24, 2012 10:04:58 GMT -7
Hey Folks, Rock & Roll Time....spread the word. Compass Morainn - Return of the Black Swann (video)www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrFPnopeOCY&feature=relmfuAnimal on OMF (Tribute Video)www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmkBZNo_63gLucianarchy's Original Open Minds Forum - Coordinating Alpha Siteoriginalopenmindsforum.webs.com/LOOMF Community Forum - Open for postingopenmindsforum.forumotion.com/Note: The Community Forum is still under going additions and tweeking. Expect ongoing improvements. Also pdfs & other formatted documents of the original site are still being uploaded across the web. Multiple copies and locations are being placed to ensure security and prevent permanent destruction. Primaries will be linked on the Alpha Site's Resources page as they come available, and secondaries etc will be linked should a primary be taken offline. This will be an ongoing project over the course of this year. We ask your continued patience. Compass Morainn Tech Team |
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