Not sure about my final banning shortly before Fore started getting banned left and right. Ummmmm maybe a week or two prior? Did I deserve that? Probably- as I was not so nice to Magfrey who continuously disrupted ScaRZ thread- but even you had your say on many occasions about why it was allowed to continue. As I recall you felt the same frustration I did.
Face it Jake- Leaders Lead. Bren was not around at all after Source A crashed.
This is the partial story as best as I can remember it.
What ended your membership was some extreme posts you made at magfrey.
When Bren asked me if I objected to your ban I said I didn't.
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Then Bren posted a hit-piece (more or less) where he mixed your most extreme sentences and a series of different sentences, from different posts, (taken all out of context).
Bren posted that and quoted it but left the name as blank (Anonymous). Then went on to declare what he didn't want on his forum.
I took him to task for misquoting and presenting ideas taken out of context as being a legitimate point. I explained my points and what they meant, I believe he repeated the posting.
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This led to quarreling between him and I on the non-public Mod forum. He pulled out a virtual Ak-47 disparaging various kinds of systemic beliefs that were contrary to his with his "comments" so I pulled out the Samson protocol and pushed him by adding a few trojan horses of the ideology he was silently pushing.
What that means is:
I made sure to agree and disagree with him on his stance on what gets cut. I wrote out a ton of paragraphs where his idealogy trumps all others. Things that are a legitimate part of religious beliefs would get cut because he didn't agree with the stance. (so much for an open mind?)
While others that were a-Kin to his ideology would be supported and propagated.
At first Bren was very much interested in tangling in front of the others. But when he realized he was nose diving in his approach when looked at from a different perspective....he wanted to "take it private".
I objected knowing he would never allow the others to know what was being said. (Keep that in mind! He likes to "edit" things to make himself look good.)
The other Admins were hesitant to step into no-mans land and tried to mediate to keep the fire to a minimum.
Around the same time, I had brought up the fact that I was being threatened by my Group (of ET) about the forum. I told Bren and the others about it and let them know what to expect if the hammer came down.
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Bren took the opportunity to call me a liar, full of BS, and that I was the one making the threats.
One of the Mods whom is a director of research in UFOlogy corrected Bren and told him that ET's do threaten people and put forth a portion of her own story.
Bren said a little too insulting and offended two mods and me. Bren explicitly apologized to the two mods but did not extend an apology to me.
He then took me to task under the guise that I was the one whom made the threats. (The same things they have seen me reiterate a while before then)
None of the others wanted to stay in the line of fire and many kept trying to be reasonable and asked us both to stop attacking one another.
Bren lost the whole point of not oppressing others by using his views of the world as the "Ultimate Benchmark".
With that he told me to speak to him in PM.
So I went to PM and then he basically told me that this is not the first time he found content he objected to. Then laced the entire post in a threatening ultimatum.
He told me that these were "unacceptable posts" (which he took out of context to everything being said). He said I either agree these are unacceptable posts, or I am not fit to be a moderator.
At first I told him he could delete whatever it is he found to be unacceptable.
Then quickly followed up with two other PM's (I think two) in which I told him that I was resigning as moderator.
I also made sure to tell him what he would do to the forum and that I no longer saw him as a leader and did not recognize him as one.
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I told the Mod forum that I was resigning and many seemed to be...discouraged.
I told them I would be stepping down in the next two days and to say whatever they wanted to say before then.
Bren only gave me 24 hours as he silently de-modded me. I only got to see some of the messages meant for my parting.
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During those 24 hours. I got one of the admin to agree that my threads would not be locked and not hidden. One of the Admins agreed to this and...I dunno about you...but it might be my imagination....but I feel that displeased Bren. (IMO)
Once I secured the safety of my threads. I read up on the goodbyes. I noted on the public side of the forum that I resigned. And wrote to ScaRz that I would not be able to be there to defend his threads anymore.
Something which if Bren had his way would disappear. ("IMO")
ScaRz seemed to understand what I meant by that. I decided to stay on after a while.
Then comes the next three or 6 months....
