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Post by rpm on Feb 1, 2012 15:09:02 GMT -7
My condolences, Dan.
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Post by skaizlimit on Feb 1, 2012 16:01:38 GMT -7
LIfe is full of the mystery of sadness. May her soul rest in peace, Dan, and may God console you in your grief.
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Post by Jake Reason on Feb 1, 2012 21:19:22 GMT -7
Well, gosh, we did lose Louise, yesterday. It was almost dark when she set out from Larry's house, her neighbor. She was in good spirits, telling him about who she had seen in town. She walked up to the ridge behind his house, where she usually leaves either her four-wheeler or snowmobile for the 25 min run back down to her ranch, passing through the Forrest gate, and then through her gate. She calls Ben before she leaves, and she calls Larry, when she gets home. She didn't call. Ben, Larry, two other neighbors and the Sheriff coverged on the four-wheeler at about the same time. The motor was still running, it was snowing, and she had fallen off, into the snow bank. She would have been 72 next month. A sudden stroke, evidently. She had become frail, but she hated the thought of having to sell the ranch. If she had her choice, this might have been it. I have talked to her almost every week, since our parents died. She was very much into UFO's and contact phenomena, as I have been relating, online, since when. She will be missed. . Oh I am very sorry to learn this, Dan. I can hardly think of what to say. I know she will leave a hole in your world, that no one else could fill. Glad to read that G-d took her home quickly, with little duress. The little I knew of her through your sharing, made me wished I could have visited with her someday on her mountain in the quietness. I envisioned her as a most remarkable women with extraordinary experience and depth. I am sad for you. |
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Post by sparky on Feb 1, 2012 22:11:58 GMT -7
Our deepest respect to you at your time of loss. Rest in peace dear Louise.
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Post by mdonnall2002 on Feb 2, 2012 5:15:46 GMT -7
Keep well, Dan..
May you find the wisdom and perspective required at a time like now...
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Post by dan on Feb 2, 2012 8:32:10 GMT -7
Rpm, Skai, Jake, Sparky and Md02,
Thank you for your kind thoughts. I have to rush out, again, now. I'll be back in a bit.......
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Post by Cyrellys on Feb 2, 2012 12:34:32 GMT -7
My condolences for your loss Dan. May Louise be met by a sister and restored to memory.
Cy
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Post by Cyrellys on Feb 2, 2012 12:51:26 GMT -7
Who ever said I was a ufologist Dan? Never I. Some of us have been way beyond that for many many millennia. What might Contact do among so many other things if not also restore the past to memory?
Peace to the sky
sky to the earth
earth beneath sky
strength in everyone
~ From Morrigu’s Prophecy
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[BTW, Cy, the background image of CM looks a lot like a final image from Melancholia, with the usual planets superimposed. It certainly is apocalyptic. No?]
Not quite, unless you find fishing at dusk in the presence of an expression of a Greater Community apocalyptic. Personally I know some great fishermen who turn Dusk Fishing into a fine art form in VERY short order. Brueghel hasn’t anything on a Wombold equipped with a car radio antennae and a baseball bat. He painted; they produced Salmon, in a way that I doubt has ever been done before…forget the proverbial third option…they wrote an entirely new book on fishing! I should know; I had to clean 16 of the friggin things on zero notice when they returned in 20 minutes of when they left. For a child of the Source, starlight is an invitation not a limitation and there are no shortages of archetypes for fishermen.
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Where is your home, Cy?
fire as wanted
palisades new and bright
salmon* their victory
~ From Morrigu’s Prophecy
Where is my home, Dan? It is within the creative, universal Source; within All Being. What is the Salmon if not of the Great Kenning? I am a humble agrarian traveler before the sky and the earth and the sea! Before the sun, and the moon, and the stars! I am the youth in his adventure! I am a freeman in his sovereignty, declared without a goal of plunder! An Advantage! Be there Life from It! I am what another company fears! I am Havoc and the Shining! I am a strain of Hosts for men without choice! I am a land of rushes laid waste by fire. I am the neck of the bull in yoke. I am a fullness of honey. I am a spear supported by shield. I am the sea-spray boiling. I am of the flame within and its contest of Valour. I am a reason within Chaos! I am a Roar and a Peace, steadfast and bright. Grian gives home to these arrangements.
Cyrellys
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Post by dan on Feb 2, 2012 15:07:44 GMT -7
Cy,
What are we mortals for, if not to surprise one another?
Grian? The Sun god of the Irish. Cy, an archetype for the fishermen. What should we make of the allegation that my code name was sunfish?
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Post by Cyrellys on Feb 2, 2012 16:53:32 GMT -7
Hey Dan,
Grian is not a sun god. It's the name of our star...the sun. A star gazing hill is also called a griannon. And a sun room either open or covered is also referred to as a griannon. Eire has many places where portions of star maps have been carved into the rocks.
Cy
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Post by dan on Feb 3, 2012 6:46:53 GMT -7
Cy,
Are there gods out there?
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Post by sparky on Feb 3, 2012 10:20:25 GMT -7
Don't hold your breath for Gods out there. Better do what is good and kind while here. Once done, it is all she wrote. Stay close to your kid for the man who loses his children is a man with evil who is walking dead.
Take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death.
Deuteronomy 17:5
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Post by Cyrellys on Feb 3, 2012 10:40:29 GMT -7
Cy, Are there gods out there? There are many types of Beings out there and they have put their own time in self-development in with varying degrees of success to this point in time. Are there those who have reached levels of development that is so advanced in comparison to us as to seem like gods? Yes. And there are those out there even beyond that in relation to them. And the opposite is true also. There are beings out there who are not as developed as we are. Each is deserving of respect as peers; brothers & sisters, who have their own issues, struggles, failures and achievements. Not worship. Their home in the greater scheme is the same as ours. The circuitous routes to All Being are enumerable. Their paths are not necessarily ours. Our paths are not necessarily theirs. Each has opportunity toward free-will and potential. How, to what degree, or IF they use that opportunity in relation to their own nature is unique to each. Ask yourself a very basic question. When you were a student in school, did you live your life vicariously through a fellow classmate? Did you worship that classmate for their successes? Did you obsess on them? Or were you there to obtain your own education, develop your own skills and nature, have your own failures and successes, and exercise your own applications? What did you learn about your self in relation to exposure to your peers? What did this open up for you in comparison to if you had spent your life knowing only your immediate family? This basic question set can teach you a great deal about where you are today and can be crossed into an examination of context in a broader sense. The more we learn, the more we come to realize that the ceiling is far higher than we have yet imagined and the only thing that limits our flight is the restrictions we create for ourselves. Theism, theocracy of ANY kind is a self-created restriction designed to limit your flight and self-development to very safe and comforting parameters. Some people need it, others have advanced to learn they don't. Shrug. Should we be intimidated by any of these sorts of things? No. Can we be inspired by them instead? Certainly. Should we be cautious about the choices and leaps out there? Certainly. Will we continue to make mistake? Without a doubt. Will we discover and achieve our own successes? Each person is a BEING of UNLIMITED POTENTIAL. Believe that and nothing can keep you from it as long as you never relinquish that heart, even if it costs you a lifetime. Things that help you in that pursuit of Excellence: integrity; a positive nature will carry you farther on each wave than a negative one, and a knowledge that every person and group is BETTER than their birth, and that every person and group can surpass their mistakes and difficulties in any life and improve their nature and expression of BEING at any point they so choose, and it ALWAYS makes a difference even if you can't see it. Cy Edit to add: Oh and one more little thing...it's not a race people. Think Quality not Quantity. |
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Post by pman35 on Feb 3, 2012 17:52:46 GMT -7
dan My condolence is with you gone but not forgotten our loved ones will live on in our hearts , and when we feel down all we do is remember the good times and their love will help u get thru the pain.
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Post by dan on Feb 4, 2012 7:50:22 GMT -7
Pman,
Thank you for the kind thoughts, and, yes, their love does stay with us.
Cy,
You are expressing very well the beliefs held by Louise, and probably by most people who do not subscribe to one of the three prophetic traditions.
And, as a practical matter, unless you happen to believe that the prophesied End is near, there would be very little practical difference between the beliefs that you are expressing, and those of the vast majority of humanity.
And simply believing that the End is near, need not have any substantial or direct impact on your daily routines. And even the many of us who may be advanced in years, or otherwise living on borrowed time, have little choice but to get on with our lives, as we have been living them.
There is another, rather small group of folks who, for perfectly rational and secular reasons, believe that we humans have overextended ourselves, and have pushed the Earth well-beyond its carrying capacity. Many of them have tried to sound the alarm, but to very little avail, and their voices are lost in the cacophony of the lesser, daily concerns and interests of the vast majority.
Their most visible witness are the bold signs along the highway, announcing the often weekly rises in the price of gasoline. That is the one message that does get through the cacophony. That message has everything to do with the global slowdown in economic growth.
The main thing keeping the lid on energy costs, besides the slowdown, is the new technology of gas fracking. As the prices continue to rise, other technologies will be brought on line, which can moderate the steepness of the price curves, but cannot reverse the inexorable trend brought on by demand vs. limited supplies.
So we continue to muddle along with ever dwindling resources, and with most of us being pushed further down the global economic ladder.... those on the very bottom, continuing to fall off, altogether. We can pray for a technological breakthrough, but that's about all.
As nations face increasing competition for resources, military budgets take an increasing share of those dwindling resources. Those same militaries can be used to pacify populations disaffected and radicalized by lowering standards of living. We can count on it!
Don't forget to add to this very volatile mix, the increasing access to WMD.
This brings us back to the religious dimension, and to the widespread notion of the Endtimes, in each of the prophetic traditions........
We have to wonder about the notion of self-fulfilling prophecies, in how it seems so easy for us to turn a blind-eye to the signs of the times. Fatalism comes to mind, although that proclivity is hardly confined to the prophetically, let alone to the religiously, inclined. What can plain folks hope to do, when even otherwise well-meaning national leaders get caught up in the politics of survival?
If we can't see a solution to the problem, then there's no point in dwelling on it. We can only let nature or the cosmic powers take their course. Who is any one of us to turn the tide or stop the flood?
Nonetheless, I have, for the past thirty-some years, been putting myself forward as a solution, much to the puzzlement or annoyance of those few folks whom I have managed to confront with this strange or nonsensical notion. Even more seldom am I ever granted the opportunity to explain myself, beyond a few seeming lame or disjointed sentences.
Am I not simply being delusional? All of us are allowed to entrain the occasional flights of fantasy, but to persist in a fantasy beyond any rather limited time frame, especially in public settings, is, virtually by definition, delusional. Unless, of course, you are merely conforming to a sectarian pattern of a recognized sort, e.g. Christianity, etc......
And when someone tries to mix an idiosyncratic 'delusion' with an established 'delusion'..... well, the annoyance is only likely to be compounded. I ought to know! When I try to explain to someone that my delusion might be less delusional than theirs, the kudos are restrained, indeed!
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But let's get back to WWGD..... No, wait a second, what about Cy and Louise? What the heck would they say about the notion of WWGD....?
It's strange, but I don't recall having used this expression with Louise, even though I frequently use it in the blog. Will it make any sense to Cy? Should it? This is the whole basis of the BPWH. Even theists seldom use this expression, except in a very personal context, and then they would ask, WWJD? Leibniz and I are definitely expanding that question well beyond its intended limits.
Let's get really specific...... If Cy, Louise or I were God, how would we deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions? Given, that God would have allowed nuclear weapons, to begin with. That assumption begs a very big question, doesn't it? It might have made some sense for a few of the big powers to have such weapons, as way to reduce the likelihood of conventional conflicts between them. But then what about the growing menace of proliferation?
I'm quite willing to suppose that there has been cosmic intervention, on the nuclear front, in the past. Why not just let God continue to help keep that Genie in the bottle? Just because there are more fingers on the button, it need not really matter to the Almighty.
Ok, but..... Can the Israeli electorate be expected to be quite so sanguine about their fate at the hands of the Iranians? That is the practical issue, here. The Indians sanguine about the Pakistani fingers, etc......?
Won't the political pressures for preemptive strikes only continue to mount, as the nuclear club expands to an unstable country near you? How quickly we forget the Cuban Missile Crisis. Did God enjoy that one?
Is God never going to draw a line in the sand wrt proliferation?
Who the heck are we to tell God how to manage the risks? Just taken in isolation, the nuclear risk is perfectly manageable, we might suppose. But against a backdrop of increasing global poverty, that risk might well take on a different aspect.
That risk could, at the very least, be seen as the logical pretext for God's own preemptive strike. Is God or the Federation going to bomb Iran? No........!
In my humble estimation, if I were the Almighty, I might just be so sneaky that I would cajole the Israeli Security Council to increasingly rattle its saber, right up to D-day. No? Why the heck not? It makes for a much more understandable drama, than counting the number of starvations each month, even if it were this latter index that was closer to God's real concerns. No?
Hey, God, this is only a suggestion...... now don't you go and blame me!!
But now how can I explain this to the SfA? Or, more specifically, how might they be cajoled into even entertaining any such divine strategizing or contingency planning? That part, I'm not seeing...... besides realizing that it would have to come under the rubric of the Endtimes, of course.
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With this this specific context in mind, what then might D-day consist of? Does Ron call George Knapp? That might not be quite as silly as it sounds, as long as we allow God sufficient license for conniving. All that Ron would have to do is feed me some juicy tidbits relative to, say, Mosad and UFO's, in context of the Israeli defense posture. It would only have to be enough to go viral, and get back to the media. I might not have to be directly involved, at first. I could just be seen waving a sign in the crowd, so to speak.
I haven't been able to think of a more minimalistic scenario than this.
Can you?
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