Post by Cyrellys on Feb 4, 2012 17:56:28 GMT -7
Thank you for the kind thoughts, and, yes, their love does stay with us.
Cy,
You are expressing very well the beliefs held by Louise, and probably by most people who do not subscribe to one of the three prophetic traditions.
And, as a practical matter, unless you happen to believe that the prophesied End is near, there would be very little practical difference between the beliefs that you are expressing, and those of the vast majority of humanity.
And simply believing that the End is near, need not have any substantial or direct impact on your daily routines. And even the many of us who may be advanced in years, or otherwise living on borrowed time, have little choice but to get on with our lives, as we have been living them.
There is another, rather small group of folks who, for perfectly rational and secular reasons, believe that we humans have overextended ourselves, and have pushed the Earth well-beyond its carrying capacity. Many of them have tried to sound the alarm, but to very little avail, and their voices are lost in the cacophony of the lesser, daily concerns and interests of the vast majority.
Their most visible witness are the bold signs along the highway, announcing the often weekly rises in the price of gasoline. That is the one message that does get through the cacophony. That message has everything to do with the global slowdown in economic growth.
The main thing keeping the lid on energy costs, besides the slowdown, is the new technology of gas fracking. As the prices continue to rise, other technologies will be brought on line, which can moderate the steepness of the price curves, but cannot reverse the inexorable trend brought on by demand vs. limited supplies.
So we continue to muddle along with ever dwindling resources, and with most of us being pushed further down the global economic ladder.... those on the very bottom, continuing to fall off, altogether. We can pray for a technological breakthrough, but that's about all.
As nations face increasing competition for resources, military budgets take an increasing share of those dwindling resources. Those same militaries can be used to pacify populations disaffected and radicalized by lowering standards of living. We can count on it!
Don't forget to add to this very volatile mix, the increasing access to WMD.
This brings us back to the religious dimension, and to the widespread notion of the Endtimes, in each of the prophetic traditions........
We have to wonder about the notion of self-fulfilling prophecies, in how it seems so easy for us to turn a blind-eye to the signs of the times. Fatalism comes to mind, although that proclivity is hardly confined to the prophetically, let alone to the religiously, inclined. What can plain folks hope to do, when even otherwise well-meaning national leaders get caught up in the politics of survival?
If we can't see a solution to the problem, then there's no point in dwelling on it. We can only let nature or the cosmic powers take their course. Who is any one of us to turn the tide or stop the flood?
Nonetheless, I have, for the past thirty-some years, been putting myself forward as a solution, much to the puzzlement or annoyance of those few folks whom I have managed to confront with this strange or nonsensical notion. Even more seldom am I ever granted the opportunity to explain myself, beyond a few seeming lame or disjointed sentences.
Am I not simply being delusional? All of us are allowed to entrain the occasional flights of fantasy, but to persist in a fantasy beyond any rather limited time frame, especially in public settings, is, virtually by definition, delusional. Unless, of course, you are merely conforming to a sectarian pattern of a recognized sort, e.g. Christianity, etc......
And when someone tries to mix an idiosyncratic 'delusion' with an established 'delusion'..... well, the annoyance is only likely to be compounded. I ought to know! When I try to explain to someone that my delusion might be less delusional than theirs, the kudos are restrained, indeed!
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But let's get back to WWGD..... No, wait a second, what about Cy and Louise? What the heck would they say about the notion of WWGD....?
It's strange, but I don't recall having used this expression with Louise, even though I frequently use it in the blog. Will it make any sense to Cy? Should it? This is the whole basis of the BPWH. Even theists seldom use this expression, except in a very personal context, and then they would ask, WWJD? Leibniz and I are definitely expanding that question well beyond its intended limits.
Let's get really specific...... If Cy, Louise or I were God, how would we deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions? Given, that God would have allowed nuclear weapons, to begin with. That assumption begs a very big question, doesn't it? It might have made some sense for a few of the big powers to have such weapons, as way to reduce the likelihood of conventional conflicts between them. But then what about the growing menace of proliferation?
I'm quite willing to suppose that there has been cosmic intervention, on the nuclear front, in the past. Why not just let God continue to help keep that Genie in the bottle? Just because there are more fingers on the button, it need not really matter to the Almighty.
Ok, but..... Can the Israeli electorate be expected to be quite so sanguine about their fate at the hands of the Iranians? That is the practical issue, here. The Indians sanguine about the Pakistani fingers, etc......?
Won't the political pressures for preemptive strikes only continue to mount, as the nuclear club expands to an unstable country near you? How quickly we forget the Cuban Missile Crisis. Did God enjoy that one?
Is God never going to draw a line in the sand wrt proliferation?
Who the heck are we to tell God how to manage the risks? Just taken in isolation, the nuclear risk is perfectly manageable, we might suppose. But against a backdrop of increasing global poverty, that risk might well take on a different aspect.
That risk could, at the very least, be seen as the logical pretext for God's own preemptive strike. Is God or the Federation going to bomb Iran? No........!
In my humble estimation, if I were the Almighty, I might just be so sneaky that I would cajole the Israeli Security Council to increasingly rattle its saber, right up to D-day. No? Why the heck not? It makes for a much more understandable drama, than counting the number of starvations each month, even if it were this latter index that was closer to God's real concerns. No?
Hey, God, this is only a suggestion...... now don't you go and blame me!!
But now how can I explain this to the SfA? Or, more specifically, how might they be cajoled into even entertaining any such divine strategizing or contingency planning? That part, I'm not seeing...... besides realizing that it would have to come under the rubric of the Endtimes, of course.
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With this this specific context in mind, what then might D-day consist of? Does Ron call George Knapp? That might not be quite as silly as it sounds, as long as we allow God sufficient license for conniving. All that Ron would have to do is feed me some juicy tidbits relative to, say, Mosad and UFO's, in context of the Israeli defense posture. It would only have to be enough to go viral, and get back to the media. I might not have to be directly involved, at first. I could just be seen waving a sign in the crowd, so to speak.
I haven't been able to think of a more minimalistic scenario than this.
Can you?
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Hi Dan,
It seems to me that Louise was very much a land sovereign in nature by her own right. And I suspect what was her balancing presence will be a loss that will take some time to be understood. I have my reservations about how much I can help you. You are very set in your beliefs and you use many acronyms I am unfamiliar with as to their meaning, so some things tend to get lost in the translation.
You and the group you speak of have great sorrow for what you perceive as dwindling resources and a world that is not replenishing many of the necessisties of life...which is interesting. That group persists in being obtuse? Perhaps you should ask them why a Land Sovereign would hold great anger over the loss of individuals like Mark Tomion? They who not only held the key to solving the problems you speak with regards to energy and more but were investing their very lives in creating for a world those solutions whilst a world stood by and laughed at them and ridiculed their work and refused to support it, until one day fantastic measures were used to remove the likes of him when the rest of the world was not looking? Your group of friends have great fear over what you've come to define as a ELE type cataclysm that you believe will sweep those who do not make the leap you propose away into some oblivion. They see only two courses and the first removes them from power, the second gives a necessity for DUMBs to those who would remain. You propose a third option? That option, mankind is not ready for. Perhaps in 30 - 40 thousand years...but not yet.
Many of the beliefs you hold about the planet are skewed. You don't see the planet as a living, conscious organism, and every living thing on it part of that organism. There is much that people could do to work in conjunction with it and with Synchronicity to make such large population levels sustainable and flourish alongside knowledge & technology. But you don't listen. I don't have fancy credentials that turn heads.
What your friends propose to do to initiate this 'leap' and force people to something they are not ready for, will only cause unrevokable damage to the living conscious organism we call Earth. You don't listen to land sovereigns so how could you be expected to listen to an entire planet? The planet has the solutions you seek. But it is easier to warble about endtimes and evolutionary steps you have NOT EARNED!
Sigh. I don't wish to be harsh. But it is part of my duty to speak truth to power even if the nature of that power seemingly dwarfs me.
Many of the things you need to know is in the many postings I've made since March 2008. Tell them that the reason they can't see past the convergence is because there is a choice there. The outcome will be the result of the choice. It is not the end that they think it is, UNLESS they create the END. There is a reason they and others can't see past it. I could tell you why but like I said above you don't listen. Perhaps I will give you a hint....vision is always relative to the seer. To his position, to his Nature, to what he and others around him choose to create. Reality is maleable. It always has been. This is nothing new. What a collective believes becomes real when the collective both desires and is ready for it. To manipulate reality or your place in it, you have to have already demonstrated a maturity to unlock the capacity and access to the ability. But mankind does not listen, by choice. So they have not yet achieved those skills necessary for the leap you describe. Yes there is the need to believe....but more than believe; you must 'know' certain things so deeply that it is part of your Nature which is an expression of your Being! Look around you Dan. What are the people and the leaders of the world expressing for their Nature? What does that say about their level of Being? It is not something you simply flip on or off over night.
The reason there is a convergence is two things...one is that they are perceiving from a skewed position and Nature. Second, when the choices to be made - those responsible for the chaos - are the same as the perceivers or who the perceivers work for then you cannot move past it, for you have not yet made the choice. If they don't want destruction. Stand down. You can't live, even underground for long if you destroy the living organism that is the Earth. It is THEY who are creating the catastrophe's by choosing and operating and creating a reality that is self-destructive. It is causing havoc in the future of the universe if mankind is wiped out.
Mind is not bound by time, space, or place.
This is not the first time this has happened here Dan. This will the SECOND time the people of this world faced these questions and matters and choices.
If you wish a different outcome then don't make the same choices. The key you seek is in the NATURE of the people. The time to choose a planetary Nature is here. And if they initiate WWIII / a nuclear conflict in the middle east then the choice will have been made both by action and by attrition for those who stood by and did nothing....and the end results WILL B E THE SAME! You had to start over last time, from scratch...primative and agrarian for thousands of years while Earth recovered....and here you are again.
What will you choose this time? Will Ego win again? Masochists. I guess you like getting thrown back to square one.
God doesn't help those who don't help themselves....Synch has been hard at work here on behalf of those expressing with all their heart a positive and mature sense of being, but even Synchronicity must respect FREE WILL. That is why you have nuclear weapons on this world.
Cease the dissonance and all the self-destructive behavior and those who can help you will come forward. You've been asked to do something very simple...stop the wars. Yet look where all your assets sit? Is this leading by example? What is the nature of that example? You ask me about Israel and Iran, whilst you live in a glass house....begin with yourself; lead by example.
Cy
